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>> they are chasing each other's shadows. >> they will vote in virginia. >> for now the president is dominating the old dominion. >> the polls increasingly favor the president. >> i know something about polls. >> i know you can ask questions and get any answer you want. >> the calendar is mitt romney oez nemesis. >> we are running out of time. >> people don't trust him. >> how does he turn this thing around? >> mitt romney has campaigned as many things this election cycle. >> a severely conservative republican governor. >> morning ya' ll. >> human pretzel. >> i repeal obamacare. >> don't forget, i got everyone in my state insured. >> 100% of kids in my state are insured.
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>> 40 days to election. >> and he's using this as a badge of honor. >> this guy is like a bobblehead. >> did the republicans nominate the wrong guy? >> do you think a guy like chris christy would be the right guy. >> with 40 days until the election and a new poll showing >> with 40 days until the election and a new poll showing president obama leading mitt romney by five points, la ra ingram refused to participate in a republican battle against the polls. >> i will say that if the romney campaign's numbers were different all of them fox included if they had a different read than the polls in the swing states you would really hear a
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romney ryan push back against the overall numbers in those battleground states. you don't hear that. i don't think they are happy about it. but i think they believe they are running behind and you are seeing some tweaks to the romney campaign >> today iowa game the first swing state to start the voting for the president of the united states. the polls he showed president obama up eight points in that state. now suffolk university poll shows the president at 46%. the president reminded what was said. >> i have always said that change takes more than one term or more than one president. it takes more than one party. i can't happen if you write out
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half the nation before you take office. >> i don't know how many of you out there will be voting for me. but, i'll be fighting for you no matter what. i'm not fighting to create democratic jobs or republican jobs, i'm fighting to create american jobs. >> today the obama re-election campaign released it's third add hitting mitt romney for insulting and lying about 47% of americans. >> 47% of people will vote for the president who are -- believe that they are victims believe the president who are -- believe that they are victims believe that government has the responsibility to care for them and believe that they are entitled to health care and housing and you name it. my job is not to worry about
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those people. >> rush limbaugh is still struggling to find an honest way to defend mitt romney's comments on the 47%. >> obama is saying that 47% of the people are not victims. he is putting words in romney's mouth. he is taking it out of context. >> never talked about them being victims. here is what mitt romney actually said. >> quote, there are 47% who are with him dependant upon government who believe that they are victims. today, it was described this way by former democratic governor of ohio at the democratic national convention. >> mitt romney has so little economic patriotism that even this money needs a passport. it is summers on the beaches of the cayman islands and winters
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on the slopes of the swiss alps. barack obama is an economic patriot. mitt romney is an out sourcing pioneer. >> here is president obama on economic patriotism today. >> during the campaign season you hear a lot about patriotism. you know what? it is time for a new economic patriotism. rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a growing middle class. likely voters in new hampshire where mitt romney owns a home. president obama leads mitt
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romney by seven points. unlikely voters in north carolina president obama polls at 48% and mitt romney at 46%. is there any point to team obama making any adds for the rest of the campaign that do not include a 47% reference. there should be temporary tattoos with the number 47% that everybody wears on their foreheads on every campaign rally. this had proved to be beyond a turning point in the campaign. it has been devastating for mitt romney. he has been on the record talking about dismissing half the country. you know, it is, it is in some
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ways, i would say this. as someone that believes that there need to be a point and counter point it is a travesty for the republican party, it is evidence of a party that is at war with itself. it is you know an example of how weak the gop has gotten on fundamental issues that are at the root of conservativism and a tragedy in the long-term. you just saw laura ingram give up. they are not all giving up. i find that arguing with the polls fascinating. there is an industry that has now grown up around poll denials. i remember the winning days of the 2004 campaign.
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voraciously consuming any blog post that told me it was wrong. across spectrum to find goodness and confirmation bias. but it is so striking, the amount of institution al incentives to encourage that instink. it is so flattered with money and attention. what we are seeing with this campaign is that in sting k consuming the republican party. all of these things that they thought would be improving the republican ticket. these things become national themes and it turns out that the american public is not that receptive to themes that emanate in right wing blog comments. >> the concern about how cell phones figure into this. it was a legitimate concern
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because it was a legitimate factor. >> it is like the gop understands that mitt romney was not doing well. they were building him a house to walk into. therefore he lost. it jonathan explains it in new york magazine. it is approach to polling and the magazine. >> the economic misery, that is intensely felt in certain parts of the country. the romney campaign built a campaign around the fact that they were a deciding factor. and it turns out that the
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economy is bad in a more complicated way and is getting better in a way that i think americans feel more intensely than a lot of political commentators are. >> it is not a thumbs up or thumbs down. >> it turns up the american public is more reformed about it's views. >> the editorial board has weighed in on this. the campaign acknowledges that the crisis began before obama took office. it has nothing to say about what bush era republicans have gone wrong. that impress lends kre dense to obama's attempts as running for bush's third term. >> and half of romney's staff is former bushies. the relationship to the george w. bush era is very
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uncomfortable. there are no new ideas there. the fact that they haven't figured out how to get their arms around the bush legacy given the fact that there is a bear hug around the policies, one thing that i think is going on is, they -- there is a limit to how stupid they want to look. i think some of them want to be able to say the day after the election. i saw this coming. look at what i said in october. and in september. i told you if romney doesn't talk about what he is going to do, then he is in trouble. they are trying to put their markers down. all of these columns are small
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monthly premiums on the insurance policy. they are getting attacked. they are putting down premiums so they could purchase the insurance. the idea is when there is a battle after words. a lot could happen in 41 days. greece could exit tomorrow and it looks different and we are at this table in a week. >> they are projecting forward a romney loss and trying to prefight the battle over the reason that it happened. let's not forget. paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up.
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team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazy todd aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was taught a lesson said about the morality of his conduct during the vietnam period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of as the takers he thinks are dependant on government. that is coming up. [ horse neighs ]
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and believe that they are entitled to health care to food. housing and you name it. these are people that pay no in come tax. >> the romney debate team has six days to figure out what mitt romney has to say about his 47% comments. the first debate is just six day as way. as team romney privately obsesses now on how to handle that 47% question, they are as team romney privately obsesses now on how to handle that 47% question, they are publicly rising suddenly in
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praise, praise of president obama. they say he is quote universally acclaimed and quote natural gifts and extensive seasoning and is quote uniquely gifted and is quote one of the most talented political communicators and are trying to lower expectations to the point where if he can stay standing for the 90 minutes it will be considered the victory. >> crystal ball, the president will not be allowed to speak for the full 90 minutes of the debate. surely jim will get something in there too.
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>> crystal ball, the president will not be allowed to speak for the full 90 minutes of the debate. surely jim will get something in there too. possibly we could expect a 30 minute attack add? >> you never know. maybe they should put that in the rules that president could speak for 90 minutes instead of mitt romney having to say anything. i suspect that is not what they are going to do. he has a challenge to come in and not look scared or defensive. he has to be cool and calm and confident and own the space. that is the most important thing for him. if he looks skiddish. those optics will be the most devastating thing for him. you would think would be about
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the pressure would be on the incumbent to defend the last four years in office. but in this debate, it is clear that 100% is on how does mitt romney handle the 47% question? >> i agree with crystal to put in other terms the undecided voters are sitting with their back toward the stage. the voice and he has to be strong and have an answer. the problem he has is which every way he turns he loses a piece of the argument. romney is going to lose a piece where he turns. one that he has used before, is to say look, i care about the 100%. look at what i did in massachusetts with romney care. if he give that is answer, he loses the strength of the argument.
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but i think he has no choice. i think he has to say that like the president, when the president in 2008 was overheard at a fundraiser talking about people clinging to funs and religion that people shorthand thinks in debates and in private. there is no response that will not contradict the text of the actual words he used. that is right. there is no response that will not contradict the text of the actual words he used. that is right. there is no ability to actually get out of that box and i think his best attempt is what he put up in his add. he says i square. he cares for the middle class i do too.
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>> let's listen to what peggy noonan had to say about romney's possibilities. >> let's listen to what peggy noonan had to say about romney's possibilities. >> i think he has a chance to no not likability and all that dumb stuff. he happens to be on stage with a guy who has been the president. with the president's lead with likability, you can't dismiss librariability. where would president obama be in the polls today? >> stewart, first of all, i talked not long ago to stewart stephens.
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where would president obama be in the polls today? >> stewart, first of all, i talked not long ago to stewart stephens. they want to make this an extended conversation. there are four debates. they may be hoping there are undecided voters now. so they care a whole lot about these debates. i think what they have to do is not worry so much about the likability factor. what she means by height and hest i don't know. the trees are the right size. but this is the one time where mitt romney can confront the president. he has to say to the president
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look, you have failed, you have failed as the economic commander and chief, here is why you have failed and here is why i would be better at the job. that is what the es sen of what he has to do and winning the likability game he will never do. he is going to be the dork from the beginning to end. i'm not that charming perhaps. i don't always say things the right way as i proved in that quote from behind closed doors but i know how to fix the economy. >> i have no doubt that president obama will be a better defender of that record. thank you both very much for
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joining me tonight >> coming up. i hate to say i told you so especially on this one. but, as predicted here, republican money is flowing back into todd aikin's crazy senate campaign and he is saying crazy things and in the rewrite tonight the oblivious mr. romney is taught a lesson about who the takers are in this country. empu. [ male announcer ] why not talk to someone who owns an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america? ask me about my tempur advanced ergo. goes up. goes up. ask me what it's like to get a massage anytime you want. goes down. goes down. [ male announcer ] tempur-pedic brand owners are more satisfied than owners of any traditional mattress brand. ergonomics. [ male announcer ] tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america. [ female announcer ] for more information
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[ laughing ] [ laughing ] [ laughing ] [ laughing ] ♪ in the spotlight tonight todd aiken. i think we have a very clear path to victory and apparently claire mccas kill thinks we do to. because she was very aggressive in the debate. i think that is because she feels threatened. aiken said wow, it is like
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somebody let a wild kate out of the cage. she was furious and attacking. let's see how wild she got at the beginning of the debate. >> thank you to the press association and thank you to >> thank you to the press association and thank you to both todd and jonathan for being here today. this is going to be a contrast for most missourians. we are in the middle. but he is so far on the french.
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there have been many comments made that i find unacceptable. but his views will be painful for families. used to be much more lady like. i don't know what has happened to her. >> she did have a way of shutting done. thank you todd wasn't ladylike enough in this debate. >> so, i'm glad we are not in that world. >> she's ahead in the polls. but todd aiken was a person she wanted to run against. >> we will not support this
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but todd aiken was a person she wanted to run against. >> we will not support this candidate. yeah, it confirms what every one knows, there wasn't actually any outrage about the terrible things he said. there was a concern that it would look bad. i think it is funny.
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they were hoping to drive him out and get a better candidate. but they still want to bomb her with money. >> the part of it that is striking is you hear so many calls for democrats to distance themselves from the most random people. this is the guy running for the party seat and he is showing a flare and a commitment that should outrage people. >> what else did you know? todd aiken wants to end federal student loans too. calls them a cancer. these adds and claire mccas kill has one that is similar. you do learn things about him.
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but in 30 seconds you can learn more. he has a history of saying crazy things. comparing schip for children to the titanic. the guy, is nuts.
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there is a double standard. to succeed in the mid western or southern state. it reminds me of a little bit around the frustration of our first black president.
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>> i would say she doesn't seem to be tougher than other senators. there is a double standard. tough has never been used for a male politician. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up. republicans who say voter fraud happens may have gotten proof. there is a criminal investigation into a republican voter registration drive in florida. and in the rewrite. mitt romney wants to be the commander and chief in the military that he refused to serve in. but he would be the first president who protested in favor of the war of his era and protested in favor of the draft of that war while evading that draft himself and refusing to serve in that war.
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♪ in tonight's rewrite. mitt romney the taker. we heard what he thinks of 47% of us. that he thinks of us as takers dependant on government. here is a picture of him in 1968. that is mitt romney on a beach taken a special draft deferment. there he is, the very picture of ablifiousness to the fact that while he was playing in the sand on french beaches, beaches where 2500 americans died in one day
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on world war ii, thousands and thousands of young americans his age were dying in vietnam for a foolish war that american he was on its way to losing that the young mr. romney fully supported. he also supported the draft and participated in what might be the only college demonstration in history in favor of the draft. but he was not in favor of being drafted himself. he didn't want to get his hands dirty in the ment. he was in favor of his college classmates dying but not him. millions of us protested against both the war and the draft bill clinton did everything he could
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to avoid the draft without the benefit that mitt romney enjoyed. but he didn't want anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam to die in his place. like mitt romney was. young american men had terrible choices to make in those days. protest the war or serve in the war. protest the draft or avoid the draft or flee the country or go to prison in defiance of the draft. going to war was not the only
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brave choice then. morally centered men made each one of those choices. the amorality of mitt romney's choice was something that i had never heard of. i disnot know that there was a single american man who publicly protested in favor of the war and protested in favor of the draft and then evaded that draft himself and then sat i'dly by, played in the sand of french beaches while expecting other young american men his age to go to vietnam in his place. mitt romney thinks of people taking veteran's benefits as dedapts on government. thinks of them as the takers. we could have had 48,000 more of those takers if they hadn't been
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killed in vietnam when mitt romney was playing on the beach. mr. romney was reminded of that today. reminded that he and his fathers and sons did not serve in the wars of their era. he was reminded of that by a man whose family has done the opposite. in virginia today, center wepp said this good the people that mitt romney thinks of as takers. >> i grew up in the military.
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my dad was a pilot and i was a marine. my brother and son was a marine. i've worked on veteran's issues all of my adult life. governor romney and i are right about the same age young guys. like millions we came to adulthood facing the reality of the war. 2.7 million wept to war. took the lives of young americans and cost 300,000 wounds. during the year that i was in vietnam, 1969 our country lost twice as many dead as we have lost in iraq afghanistan combined over the past ten years of war.
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68 was worse and 67 was the same. and there was not a day that goes by that i do not think about the young marines that i was privileged to lead. they have lived lives of courage both in combat and after their return. many of them were derided by their own peers for having served. but in receiving veteran's benefits they are not takers they are givers in the ultimate sense of the word. there is a saying, all gave some, some gave all. it is a heart of a tradition of the freedom and independence. thef paid with their lives, some
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here is a memo, showing an id to vote is responsible. >> since 2008 at least 15 states have passed tighter id laws. turns out that one case of voter fraud is being investigated. it is fraud by and for the republican party tonight. they had to fire a consulting firm it paid millions of dollars to after seficials flagged forms as fraudulent. local prosecutors are investigating the matter and say the cases could be turned over to the california department. alleged fraud is the work of just a few bad apples. >> you have been studying this
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florida case. there is a fame case. he was with me working on the campaign side. what they were accused of in 2004 is sending out register to so the. if you check off register me as a republican. they turn it in. >> if he check democrat? shred it. and an employee told on them. he said they were separating the ballots and democrats were showing up to the polls in 2004 in florida to find out that they
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were not ready to vote. >> it never happened. the bush justice department never did anything about it. in florida there are types that have been caught and pending prosecutor. there are the falsefication of signatures. that has been caught. it has only been republicans. when you say you registered to vote and you never really did. they left it out and there are two lawsuits pending that could over turn the mayor's race because people million dollars out their ballots for them. it is just not in person. >> tim made the point that if republicans believe that 47% of the vote is locked in, ignoring them isn't enough. >> the more desperate the republicans get, the more likely we are to see them take people out their ballots for them. it is just not in person.
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>> tim made the point that if republicans believe that 47% of the vote is locked in, ignoring them isn't enough. >> the more desperate the republicans get, the more likely we are to see them take people off the roads. >> joy reid gets tonight's word. romney losing his bearings. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. why do we have such long campaigns for president? because it's a tryout a chance to not just kick the tires, not